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  1. #1
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    Anybody try the Bales Technical Service Suzuki oil filter adapter?

    Adapter: Bales Technical Service Oil Filter Adaptor

    Recommended by: Motorcycle Oil Filter Comparison

    From that site:
    "I get a lot of emails from Suzuki owners asking me what the secret best filter is. They're all trash. All of them. You are forced by Suzuki's brain-damaged specification to buy and use trash oil filters. There's now an alternative, you can buy an adaptor for $15 that allows you to use PL14610 or Supertech ST7317 filters, the same thing used by Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki bikers."

    Any experience / thoughts?
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  3. #2
    Leg Humps The Snap On Tool Man
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    Well since Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha and the like all use EMGO brand filters repainted to say "SGP" I don't see much point. If you want a cheap filter buy an EMGO and have factory protection. If you want a high performance alternative K&N makes a filter to fit our bikes as do a few other brands that toute thier products as being the best. The key is that almost all Suzuki power sports products use the same filter number. So that part number is plenty popular. I see it as a way to confuse the future owner once you sell it.

    NMc
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  4. #3
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    i have yet to hear anyone here use that adaptor. i would like to try it because those car filters are 10times better than a motorcycle filter.
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  5. #4
    Leg Humps The Snap On Tool Man
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    Quote Originally Posted by achang1 View Post
    ... car filters are 10times better than a motorcycle filter.
    Don't know what gives you that idea. I stand by my original statement.

    NMc
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  6. #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by achang1 View Post
    i would like to try it because those car filters are 10times better than a motorcycle filter.
    Data/study please. I'm intrigued.
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  7. #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantissa View Post
    They're all trash. All of them. You are forced by Suzuki's brain-damaged specification to buy and use trash oil filters.

    Any experience / thoughts?
    Yes.

    Typical marketing hype BS.......from someone who stands to profit by spreading lies and half-truths.

    Beware the snake oil salesman.

  8. #7
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    For those of us that are not looking for cheap junk, factory or K&N filters, the Bales adapter widens the oil filter choice a bunch. I personally like Purolator PureONE or Royal Purple oil filters in combination with synthetic oils like Amsoil for my Bandit 1250 with 15,000 miles on the odometer.
    Last edited by doppleganger; 07-20-2011 at 08:35 AM.

  9. #8
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    "Well since Suzuki, Honda, Yamaha and the like all use EMGO brand filters repainted to say "SGP" I don't see much point. If you want a cheap filter buy an EMGO and have factory protection. If you want a high performance alternative K&N makes a filter to fit our bikes as do a few other brands that toute thier products as being the best. The key is that almost all Suzuki power sports products use the same filter number. So that part number is plenty popular. I see it as a way to confuse the future owner once you sell it."
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    For those of us that are not looking for cheap junk, factory or K&N filters, the Bales adapter widens the oil filter choice a bunch. I personally like Purolator PureONE or Royal Purple oil filters in combination with synthetic oils like Amsoil for my Bandit 1250 with 15,000 miles on the odometer.
    Last edited by doppleganger; 07-20-2011 at 08:36 AM.

  10. #9
    Leg Humps The Snap On Tool Man
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    Guess you hadn't noticed Purolator makes a filter that fits our bikes # ML16818 Which is the same number as for your Bandit... Because Suzuki uses the same filter for almost ALL of thier powersports products. Also that Purolator brand seems pretty iffy. For one they have editing issues on thier PDF filter guide. I have editing issues too, but I'm not trying to sell you anything.

    NMc
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  11. #10
    Leg Humps The Snap On Tool Man
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    Being unfamiliar with the Purolator brand I asked a buddy of mine who also happens to be a mechanic. He informs me that Purolators are the cheapest filters that a lube shop can buy in bulk. So for all this heavy handed talk of "junk filters"....

    NMc
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  12. #11
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    NMc:

    I posted here ON TOPIC only to show how the Bales adapter offers us more options in filter choices... not to argue with anyone, their personal opinions, the opinion of their mechanic[s] or have words put in my mouth.

    I'm keenly aware of the Purolator ML16818, and with FACTS under my belt ~ not personal opinion, it is one filter I care NOT to use. The ML line of filters is made in China, and rebranded to Purolator. Myself, I prefer buying American when there are options more suitable for me.

    FWIW, your mechanic buddy is entitled to an OPINION that is but a single data point in a much larger body of information available via Google or wherever. The key to good decision making is a body of facts large enough to do some intelligent analysis when combined with a modicum of CRITICAL THINKING... not a single 'off the wall' bulk pricing remark as evidence of questionable quality or value!
    Last edited by doppleganger; 07-20-2011 at 06:42 PM.

  13. #12
    Leg Humps The Snap On Tool Man
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    Ok, sure but a poorly built and edited web site IS a good indecator of a janky company and cheaply built product. As is bulk pricing. Agree or disagree but by in large you get what you pay for. It also seems those Chinese filters are the bread 'n butter of Puralator.

    FWIW if factory size filters are good enough for race motors and half million mile bikes why wouldn't it be good enough for my bike? I believe in using the best fluids and parts but I also recognize the biggest component to a happy machine is regular maintenance. Truely there are Honda Leadwings and Harleys that have driven to Neptune and back on factory filters and conventional oil. To further bolster the concept how many air (&oil) cooled VW Beatles and Busses had reached a solid million miles before synthetic oil existed? Those were only filtered with one ply of steel mesh screen. So to go claiming the factory filters are "junk" seems like you are pushing something.

    Now with better fluids and parts service intervals and component life get extended but it is also a matter of diminishing returns. No oil will protect for 20,000 miles. And almost any oil and filter will be great if only used for a thousand miles. How much do you really want to spend?

    NMc

    ~P.S~ The opinion passed on to me (Which I'm always welcome to hear) was not from my mechanic, it was from a fellow mechanic. He was also a parts specialist for many years before turning to the Bloody Knuckle Society.
    Last edited by fear_cartaidh; 07-20-2011 at 07:21 PM.
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  14. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by fear_cartaidh View Post
    FWIW if factory size filters are good enough for race motors and half million mile bikes why wouldn't it be good enough for my bike?
    Like many (most) mods that riders rave about, it strikes me as a solution without a problem.

  15. #14
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    NMc:

    Other than continuing off topic....you misinterpret and distort what I write and take issue with me where no issue actually exists.

    "So to go claiming the factory filters are "junk" seems like you are pushing something."

    I never made such a claim.
    SLOW DOWN, and read CAREFULLY what I really wrote.

    Please note the ALL IMPORTANT comma between cheap junk and factory:

    "For those of us that are not looking for cheap junk, factory or K&N filters..." ~ doppleganger

    I have presented no argument or defense for or against filters per se, much less their size, country of origin or what effect a website may have on the quality of the products advertised. It could be said that since you don't spell very well here that the quality of your opinions are in a class similar to the websites that do not meet your personal expectations.

    I grew up in an age long ago when cars had no factory filters. My current crop of air cooled Lycoming aircraft engines have no filters to this day and regularly achieve 3000+ hours between overhauls.... flying at 70% power throughout their lives cruising at 200 mph. That's 600,000 miles with nothing more than a coarse screen between the oil pump and the rest of the lubrication system. Auto engines today spend most their lives cruising below 35% power, but so farking what? The ORIGINAL question was and STILL is...

    Anybody try the Bales Technical Service Suzuki oil filter adapter?

    My answer is a resounding 'yes', and I'm very pleased with the product.

    If it is indeed a solution in search of a problem... so be it.

    PLONK!
    Last edited by doppleganger; 07-21-2011 at 09:06 AM.

  16. #15
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    Purolator info

    Anybody try the Bales Technical Service Suzuki oil filter adapter?-purolator.jpg Anybody try the Bales Technical Service Suzuki oil filter adapter?-clc.jpg
    Stock $47.31 a share


    2006 - $180,000,000 in sales


    Click on the pix above...

    Company History: Purolator Products Company is the largest manufacturer of automotive filters in the United States. The original Purolator filter, invented in 1923, was the first replaceable oil filter for automotive motors. Since that time Purolator brand filters have been marketed by a string of companies, while the Purolator name has remained a leading factor in the automotive filter industry.


    How is it possible to be unfamiliar with the first and largest automotive filter name in the U.S. industry, NMc?!?!?!
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    "Being unfamiliar with the Purolator brand...."

    NMc

    Last edited by doppleganger; 07-21-2011 at 09:27 AM.


 

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