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  1. #1
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    Cam chain oiler.

    Hi, I'm new to this. (posting)
    I started hearing the ticking timing chain at 17,000 miles.
    I have the stock exhaust and I like it quiet. Also I wanted to sell it so I decided to fix it first.
    My tensioners are ok. It may be a bad chain can break a tensioner.
    I think the problem is a lack of direct oil to the rear chain. I think Suzuki is expecting the clutch to sling the oil to the right side (rear) chain.
    If the bike is on it's kickstand, the clutch can't sling the oil. The problem is worse during warm up when the chain is relatively dry.
    I found the front chain receives oil from it's cam. The oil has a path from the cam to the guide / tensioner.
    The rear cam oil goes straight to the crankcase.
    I made an oil diverter to route the oil around the chain and on to the sprocket. I used a little silicone to seal it with the wall.
    I made a video of breaking the chains, new and old, linking them, and threading the new chain in while cranking it by hand.
    And then repinning it. I planned on putting it on youtube.

    I can't insert images until my third post. Sorry.

    I hope this helps.

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  3. #2
    M-J Lifetime Achievement Award
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    Plenty of M50's seem to suffer from cam chain/tensioner problems. Unfortunately its an engine out repair...a poor design fault no one at Suckzuki seem to want to do anything about.
    Smoke me a kipper I'll be home in time for breakfast

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    40 views already. I hope you people return. Pics are on there way.

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  6. #4
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    One more time.

  7. #5
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    Eye candy.
    Corbin fairing.
    VTX bars.
    Last edited by Geartooth; 10-01-2016 at 11:08 AM.

  8. #6
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    Testing...

  9. #7
    Found second gear by accident
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    Thankfully I traded in my suckzuki ( Aussie) for a Valkyrie, but I'm curious to know what symptoms a loose cam chain might present? Will it lose power if you get on it hard? Will it idle weird? Might be a stupid question but I don't know enough about motorcycles to know how important this piece is or what it does. I know it's supposed to sound off but I'm severely hearing impaired and this was my first bike so either I wouldn't hear it, or wouldn't know what it was if I did hear it.

  10. #8
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    The symptoms are. First, a light ticking sound. Then a more slapping sound with resonance. I think.
    A stretched chain will not cause a power loss or idle problem. I think.
    The cam chain is very important. It goes from the bottom of the engine to the top.
    With pistons below and valves above, if the chain breaks, the valves will get bent at least.
    A stretched chain will wear out sprockets. A new chain on an worn sprocket wont last as long...
    A stretched chain could rub on something and put metal dust in the oil.

  11. #9
    M-J Lifetime Achievement Award
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    WHS^ basically a worn chain will not cause any damage or loss of power the fun starts when it snaps or jumps a tooth or two. Also the sprocket at the bottom is often a part of the crankshaft and it gets pretty expensive to replace if a worn chain wears that out too. From the info I read most of the problem seems to stem from an inferior spring that fails on the tensioner arm....what a shame such a nice looking and fairly light and good sized bike is let down by such a poor design...and more importantly the fact that Suzuki feel it doesn't need attending to.
    Smoke me a kipper I'll be home in time for breakfast

  12. #10
    Found second gear by accident
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    Thanks all. From all I've seen here and on other forums, this company is the worst of the metric manufacturers when it comes to support so I won't be giving them any more money. Besides, the Valk beats it in every way and the only other bike I can see myself on is a Wing, when I officially become an old man.

  13. #11
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    I don't know a better way to do this. Maybe someone can help me. Any one in the San Jose area?

    Or look up
    M50 0il problem on youtube.
    Thank you.
    Matt

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    It's an 11 year old bike.

    I don't think I would be putting NEARLY as much effort into it as you are.

    But good luck. I hope it works out somehow.
    Don't believe everything that you think.


 

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