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  1. #16
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    Of course I use the choke. I thought that was implied. My problems are past that and have nothing to do with the choke.

    I'm going to go purchase a carb cleaner and see how that works now. If it doesn't I''ll clean the carb or get a Honda specialist to do it depending on how difficult it is to disasemble.

    I phoned my local Honda cycle shop.....the lady on the telephone said Sea Foam was nothing short of amazing.....and then she said "unfortunately we don't carry it". I had to laugh.

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  3. #17
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    But I'm going to look into all of the products suggested of course....I probably won't end up purchasing the sea foam but something more suited to a motorbike.

  4. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peekaboo View Post
    Of course I use the choke. I thought that was implied. My problems are past that and have nothing to do with the choke.
    When trying to provide "technical" help by remote control, one learns to take NOTHING for granted. (Yes of course it's plugged in.......oh, wait.....)

    Quote Originally Posted by Peekaboo View Post
    .I probably won't end up purchasing the sea foam but something more suited to a motorbike.
    A gas engine is a gas engine. There is nothing "unique" about a motorcycle engine.....except maybe for the "wet" clutch.......which just means that you can't use some kinds of car oil.......and should NEVER put additives into the oil.

  5. #19
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    I have had great results with SeaFoam in the tank. I use the Berryman's when I soak disassembled parts, but SeaFoam is my choice for in the tank, or in the crankcase oil.

    But with either the key is to give it a chance to work. Run the bike to get the treated gas into the carbs and let it sit overnight to clean things up. Then take it for a nice wide-open ride to blow the lossened bits out.
    You MUST obey the pug dog!


  6. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy Rider View Post
    When trying to provide "technical" help by remote control, one learns to take NOTHING for granted. (Yes of course it's plugged in.......oh, wait.....)



    A gas engine is a gas engine. There is nothing "unique" about a motorcycle engine.....except maybe for the "wet" clutch.......which just means that you can't use some kinds of car oil.......and should NEVER put additives into the oil.
    The mechanic at Honda disagrees with this post.

    Anyway thank you for your help.

  7. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrBob View Post
    I have had great results with SeaFoam in the tank. I use the Berryman's when I soak disassembled parts, but SeaFoam is my choice for in the tank, or in the crankcase oil.

    But with either the key is to give it a chance to work. Run the bike to get the treated gas into the carbs and let it sit overnight to clean things up. Then take it for a nice wide-open ride to blow the lossened bits out.
    Thank you so much! This is what I am going to do. I bought my carb cleaner, put it in, ran the bike for a bit and am going to let it sit overnight and see how things go!

  8. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peekaboo View Post
    The mechanic at Honda disagrees with this post.
    Well then you need to find a different mechanic.
    Just exactly HOW does he disagree ??

    Let me guess: He says everything that touches your bike MUST be Honda brand......which he makes a much bigger profit margin on (costs you more) and is actually no different than a "generic" product.
    Is that pretty close ??
    He probably sold you some "motorcycle" carb cleaner.....at a cost of 2-3 times what it would have cost at WalMart.

    Like I said, motorcycle oil is the one exception and, even though overpriced, it probably IS a good idea to use only bike oil just to be safe.......but it doesn't have to be Honda brand either.
    Last edited by Easy Rider; 07-29-2010 at 08:34 AM.

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    Take everything your dealer tells you with a grain of salt, as they are going to always steer you in the direction of buying what they sell and of having them do any work for you. I know: I have been a mechanic, service writter, service manager, and salesman at a large multi-brand, and I used to do it all the time. The dealership paid my salary, so I had to operate in it's best interest to maximize its profits. My 1996 Suzuki Intruder 800 wwent 135,000 miles on car oil. My 1979 Harley shovelhead is over 250,000 miles on car oil. My 1992 Suzuki went 100,000+ miles on car oil. As long as it does not have additives that make a wet clutch slip, car oil is fine, and there is no need to use a motorcycle specific oil. Nor is a need ot got to a Honda specialist for carb work. Honda did not even manufacture the carb on that bike- they bought if from the same company that made carbs for Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawasaki, and even Harley. So any motorcycle mechanic could rebuild and clean it with their eyes closed, and there is no need to pay twice as much at the dealership. Find a good local independent motorcycle shop and use them for things you or your BF can't do yourself: my local indy charged $35 an hour, compared to $82 an hour at the Honda dealership. At $82 an hour it does not take long for the repair bill to exceed the value of a 31 year old 400cc bike.
    You MUST obey the pug dog!


  10. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrBob View Post
    As long as it does not have additives that make a wet clutch slip, car oil is fine, and there is no need to use a motorcycle specific oil.
    Absolutely, totally, 100% true.

    But I'm not sure that "average Joe Rider" can be trusted to make the right choice !!

  11. #25
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    Well, the immediate clutch slip is a sure sign they made the WRONG choice LOL!

    Gernally you are fine if you stick to conventional car oil and avoid car oils marked "energy saving" or "increases MPG" or anything like that on the label, as they have the super-slippery additives.
    You MUST obey the pug dog!



 

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