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    Which would be the more powerful, faster of these 2 bikes?

    So my buddy picked up a Victory Motorbike. He says it's like a 1700cc or something like that?? Its probably less then 10 years old or so. Anyway, the thing looks tiny compared to my 1985 Honda Magna 750. He says his is way more bike than mine. I disagreed. Any thoughts on the subject would be great!!!Thanks!!

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    The Vic has more power hands down,that many not mean it's faster though.
    The Mack truck I drive at work has way more power than my '93 Z28 Camaro..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by hondanewbie View Post
    He says his is way more bike than mine. I disagreed.
    I think you are letting your emotions cloud your judgement.

    What exactly makes you think that your bike can hold a candle to one that is maybe 20 years newer and has an engine that is 2-1/2 times larger ??

    It might make for an interesting discussion but it's pretty pointless. If you are happy and he is happy, then they are equal......because owner satisfaction is all that really counts.
    Don't believe everything that you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hondanewbie View Post
    So my buddy picked up a Victory Motorbike. He says it's like a 1700cc or something like that?? Its probably less then 10 years old or so. Anyway, the thing looks tiny compared to my 1985 Honda Magna 750. He says his is way more bike than mine. I disagreed. Any thoughts on the subject would be great!!!Thanks!!
    Both are faster than anyone needs to go, but both are slow compared to most sport bikes. Enjoy your bike for what it is, the Honda is a nice ride but not a race bike.
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    the magna was designed to be a quick, its a pretty unique bike for a cruiser. the victorys are designed to lope around.
    your pitting a v4 with a fairly high redline vs geared low twin. i'd think the better rider could win on either if they were stock. low 12's are pretty common postings for both bikes.

    either way they'll both get owned by any 600cc sport bike.

    What exactly makes you think that your bike can hold a candle to one that is maybe 20 years newer and has an engine that is 2-1/2 times larger ??
    gearing and red-line. while engine size is important its not the end all be all of speed. engine wise the magna is closer to a sport bike than a cruiser.
    Last edited by slozomby; 11-27-2012 at 09:37 AM.

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    Ok!! All good points. After all is said and done, sure, it comes down to rider satisfaction. But a little friendly competition never hurts! It's not like we're going to race. He's never even ridden his, and I'm still a rookie. Why does the Victory look SO SMALL?? They must have really packed a LOT of punch I'm that little bike.

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    At around 700lbs I wouldn't call a Victory small.

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    Stoplight to stoplight this vintage 500 would kill either one,yet tie them together for a pull off tug of war it would lose to either.


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    I have one son with a Victory 8 Ball And my other son has a 700 Magna. They have raced many times. The Victory always wins. However My son with the Magna also has a V-Rod. The V-Rod easily beats either of them. However if I bring out either of my V65 Magna's the V-Rod can not beat them.
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    So how about your 109 against the V-rod?
    As long as it's not them that has to pay, no one really minds the debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Easy Rider View Post
    What exactly makes you think that your bike can hold a candle to one that is maybe 20 years newer and has an engine that is 2-1/2 times larger ??

    .

    Don't know about you, but it's the facts for me.
    Motor configuration means a lot.
    My Honda Blackbird has 600cc less than the Victory
    but would is going 35mph faster thru the traps
    wins this race by 3 seconds.
    The 2012 Victory Hammer covers the 1/4 in 13.17
    while the V45 Magna goes the same distance in 12.79
    on 1985 tires.
    I've raced and beat 3 Vrods on my 1983 V65 Magna.
    Here again we see 700cc less than the Victory,
    But the then 22-year-old Honda (this was in '07)
    V4 configuration flat out-performed it.
    I have seen a review of a stock V65 Magna
    with a 10.73 1/4 mile time.
    The Victory lineup is a fine group of bikes IMO.

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    Last edited by leonidas; 12-31-2012 at 11:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leonidas View Post
    Don't know about you, but it's the facts for me.
    Motor configuration means a lot.
    My Honda Blackbird has 600cc less than the Victory
    but would is going 35mph faster thru the traps
    wins this race by 3 seconds.
    The 2012 Victory Hammer covers the 1/4 in 13.17
    while the V45 Magna goes the same distance in 12.79
    on 1985 tires.
    I've raced and beat 3 Vrods on my 1983 V65 Magna.
    Here again we see 700cc less than the Victory,
    But the then 22-year-old Honda (this was in '07)
    V4 configuration flat out-performed it.
    I have seen a review of a stock V65 Magna
    with a 10.73 1/4 mile time.
    The Victory lineup is a fine group of bikes IMO.

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    All true but the big American V-twin has a wonderful powerband that pulls from just off idle.
    If the contest were like a tractor pull rather that a speed contest the tables would be turned.

    An old John Deere "Johnny popper" 2 cylinder wouldn't to win a race with one but she'll pull a Civic in a tug-O-war all day long at an idle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by leonidas View Post
    Don't know about you, but it's the facts for me.
    Motor configuration means a lot.
    My Honda Blackbird has 600cc less than the Victory
    but would is going 35mph faster thru the traps
    wins this race by 3 seconds.
    The 2012 Victory Hammer covers the 1/4 in 13.17
    while the V45 Magna goes the same distance in 12.79
    on 1985 tires.
    I've raced and beat 3 Vrods on my 1983 V65 Magna.
    Here again we see 700cc less than the Victory,
    But the then 22-year-old Honda (this was in '07)
    V4 configuration flat out-performed it.
    I have seen a review of a stock V65 Magna
    with a 10.73 1/4 mile time.
    The Victory lineup is a fine group of bikes IMO.

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    The magazines are not the real world. From a rolling start the Victory always beat the Magna. Joe's Victory dose have pipes and has had the processor re flashed.

    I have raced the V-rod with one of my Magna's. I got about 5 bike lengths ahead. I have a large windshield on my Magna. He was running without one. At 135 the V-rod passed me. We planned to have a rematch without the big shield on my Magna. I am sure I can hold my lead with no shield.

    As far as 10.73 goes I would like to see someone get that time with their Magna. Hell mike I don't think most riders could do it on your Blackbird. I know how bad it pulls away from a Magna. Remember Pee Wee Gleason is a 120 pound professional rider.

    You might think that my sons Magna might not be up to par, but it ran side by side with 2 other V45's, One super and one 83 750. magazines be damned. Line em up. That is what we do.

    When riding the Victory, It outperforms the Magna hands down. Like when passing a buss from 50 mph. All you need to do is twist the throttle. On the Magna you either shift down to 3rd gear or take a long time to pass. Under those circumstances the Victory is incredible.
    Last edited by Wild Willy; 12-31-2012 at 12:26 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Willy View Post
    From a rolling start

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    The only thing I can add is after seeing, but never having ridden a 1983 (but owned a 1980 yamaha) is the excitement comes in braking and handling which makes the ride interesting.
    Couldn't put "fail" across Lolo's picture, but she did come in 4th in the 100 m hurdles - still one heck of an effort.


 

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