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  1. #1
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    water in engine. Suzuki Savage, 2001 LS

    Hello

    Suzuki Savage, 2001, LS

    This is rather incredible. I am sure you can imagine the shock on my face.

    Bike would not start. There was absolutely no gas in tank. Put gas in still no start. Removed oil plug and
    all of this water, gas, oil mix came out. It must have been 3 gallons.

    Buying gas and got water out of the gas nozzle. Used gas cans. Has anyone ever heard of
    this before. Unbelievable.

    Going to speak with owner of corporate Citgo station on Monday. I know the gas came from that station.

    My bike is stored in a locked garage. So some jerk could not have done this to me, as far as the locked gas
    cap is concerned.

    My questions are: what would be the procedure insure engine and carburetor are free of water moisture?

    Obviously, I will have to replace whatever it is that prevents gas from leaking into the oil. The water/gas
    mixture must have eroded that part.

    I do have a CD repair manual for my bike.

    To be safe, what other gaskets/seals/rubber rings should I replace?

    What about the carburetor? What needs to be done to it? Can I just drain it and blow dry?

    What about the clutch side? When I pulled my clutch handle in, it felt kind of soft.Will I have to replace any parts in the clutch housing assembly?

    I have an air compressor. Will taking off the oil side and the clutch side and blowing out using the air suffice?

    I am in a very rural area. No bike repair shops. So will have to do everything myself.

    Appreciate any advice.

    Cloud_man

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    I think your initial assumption is wrong and is leading you off on the wrong path.

    Since this is an air cooled bike, there is no radiator to worry about.
    BUT a bike that just sits with an empty tank can accumulate water in the tank.
    Water or gas in the tank can get into the crankcase if the carb float sticks AND the fuel shutoff also fails at the same time.
    If there is a vacuum operated fuel shutoff, a leaking diaphram in it can also let gas into the engine.

    Simply draining the crankcase a time or two after you get it running should get the water and gas out well enough.......along with the fresh oil that you just put in.

    SO.....the real problem then is to find out exactly what allowed the contents of the gas tank to drain down into the crankcase.
    (I think your blaming the gas station for any of this is probably WAY off base......probably).

    For that, you may have to find a trailer and haul it to a shop.
    Don't believe everything that you think.

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    Easy Rider, thank you for response.

    I was just on my way here to make a couple of changes which you have already clarified.

    I agree. What I thought was water was actually gas mixed with oil.

    I am thinking to replace the carburetor gasket. Doing so may prevent gas from tank from leaking to crankcase. Would you say that would be worth a try?

    What about the clutch side and the working parts in it? Are they typically affected by any gas present? When all oil drains out, oil in clutch side assembly drains out also.

    I think I am on right path now.

    OK. will put fresh oil in crankcase and drain out couple of times.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloud_man View Post

    I am thinking to replace the carburetor gasket. Doing so may prevent gas from tank from leaking to crankcase. Would you say that would be worth a try?

    OK. will put fresh oil in crankcase and drain out couple of times.
    Listen I mean no dis-respect here but I don't think you have a good enough basic understanding of how gas engines work to be DOING ANYTHING TO TRY AND FIX THE PROBLEM.

    There is no "gasket" in the carb that will cause gas to drain from the tank to the engine.
    And the next fill of fresh oil needs to be accompanied by running the engine briefly to pick up the remaining contaminants.
    TO DO THAT, THE ORIGINAL PROBLEM MUST FIRST BE FOUND AND FIXED.
    Cycling fresh oil in and out of a dead engine does almost nothing; certainly nothing useful.
    Don't believe everything that you think.


 

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