a few months back I ran across an S50 owner (on another forum which is currently not working... for some reason) who went a little different path from Dr. Bob and Honest Abe's modification to the S50 / Intruder exhaust. While I know that many on the forum are not "fans" of the Honest Abe mod I do plan to open the exhaust on the stock pipes of the S50 a little bit. My understanding of Honest Abe's mod is drilling at least three holes around the center pipe punching through at least two plates AND then drilling out the center pipe as well thus by passing the baffles completely. This guy I reference posted pictures on the site and some owner even did a cut away version of the stock pipes just for kicks to show us all how the S50 / Intruder baffle design works. This owner did something that I wanted to try before drilling the 3 holes and punching the center out which gives the bike a stock appearance and not as many holes. (some people just use a sledge hammer and steel pipe / rebar and just beat it through the plates!). His method was to drill out the 3 rivets and pull / remove the baffle out of the pipes and then drill out only the back plate letting some of the exhaust go down the middle of the pipe. He said he used a slide hammer to pull the baffle out but I can't see what he hooked it to. He showed pictures but as mentioned above the site is no longer alive. So I wonder if anyone on here had any photos of the baffles out of the pipe already (S50 or Intruder VS800) and knew if the baffles are welded into the pipes beyond just being held by 3 rivets? A good diagram of the baffle or pictures would be great so that no one drills into the glass pack portion of the baffle. I have found ONE picture of what I think is the baffle but I can't tell if the plate behind the rivets comes out separate or is welded to the pipes inside etc. I would like to try this because if you don't like it you can always weld a plate at the very end of the baffle and put it back to stock. Any thoughts?