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  1. #16
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    http://www.starbikeforums.com/forums...r-testing.html before spending $350.00 for a new stator check this link. one guy says if your getting 40+ volts from each of the white wires the stator is good.there are lots of posts out there about testing stators it is not an exact science. your resistance check sounds iffy what you do is check each wire to see if it goes to ground i'm thinking if its charging its doing what its supposed to do. and you see if it puts out more volts as you increase the throttle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 031100 View Post
    it said I should check each wire to a ground and shouldn't see a numerical value with any of them. I did, I got 1.1 to .05 doing this. I think the stator is toast. Test done with motor off, key off.
    IF the ground test was done correctly, the readings you got indicate that the stator is shorted to ground; not good.

    The stator connector should be unplugged when doing the test.......like it was for the first part of the test.
    Don't believe everything that you think.

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    I have another question, nothing to do with the stator or R/R. When I let off the throttle to slow down for curves or down shift coming to a stop, I get loud popping noise out the exhaust like the carbs are out of sync.
    I just rebuilt the carbs. After taking the carbs apart, I removed all plastic, rubber and gasket materials, the chokes, air shut off valves etc... I let them soak in carb cleaner over night. I flooded them with water for awhile and used air compressor to blow them out. Removed all jets and cleaned them off making sure none of them had plugged holes. I replaced all parts mentioned except jets and put them back together. Set the air fuel screws two turns out and mounted everything back on the bike. Fired the bike up, turned air/ fuel screws in until I got a RPM drop and then backed them out 1/8 turn at a time picking up RPM until RPM did not go up anymore. I then synchronized the carbs to within half a needle width. Bike was running really good except for the deceleration noise, and now charging issues.

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  6. #19
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    I unplugged the connector. With the meter set to OHMs at 200 setting I followed the link test method and that's what I got.

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    popping is caused from lean mixture adjustment. turn the screws out a 1/4 turn or until it stops popping. kinda hard with the stock screws, pacific coast star used to sell aftermarket thumbscrews that you could adjust with the carbs on the bike but they may not sell them anymore. the only other place you can get screws is from metric magic yamaha

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    I was a machinist, manufacturing medical device equipment. After trying to adjust the air/fuel screws the first time, I took the stock screws out and drilled out the threaded end and made thumbscrew extensions to fit on that end and used permenant grade LOCK TIGHT. The carbs are BSR37-2 type, finding these or parts for are few or not at all. Seems like Yamaha went to a different model carb. They stopped making the 1100, so parts are a salvage hunt. 1300 fuel injected was the replacement, or so it seems. I'll turn screws out 1/4 turn after I get the bike running. One end of that connection goes to the stator, does the mating side of that connection go to R/R?

  9. #22
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    goes to the regulator

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    Quote Originally Posted by 031100 View Post
    I'll turn screws out 1/4 turn after I get the bike running.

    One end of that connection goes to the stator, does the mating side of that connection go to R/R?
    Yes.

    As for the carbs, there is a very narrow range of adjustment with that idle mixture screw and it is likely that just doing that will not solve your problem.

    You did not answer my questions about modified intake and exhaust.......and those things are CRITICAL for this discussion.
    Don't believe everything that you think.

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    I Wasn't aware that you asked but I'll answer, Intake is a Kuryakyn Pro-R Hypercharger. I'm using the Cobra shorts exhaust system. Stock pilot jet, 122.5 main in the rear cylinder, stock pilot jet, 125. main in the front cylinder. BPR7ES plugs and new coils. Put in a Dynatech 3000 ignition module. I'll get back to this later, Going fly fishing. 100+ degrees and 98% humidity I'm in no hurry.

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    FYI;Before I leave, the Dynatech 3000 has 8 on/off switches depending on how the bike is set up. With Hypercharger and Cobra exhaust the recommended setting is station 2 and 5 on, all the rest are turned off. Other than these two mods, the bike is stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 031100 View Post
    Other than these two mods, the bike is stock.
    So....the entire intake, exhaust and engine ignition computer has been changed.
    I count 3 changes.....and BIG ones at that.

    I got my threads mixed up; I actually didn't ask about that in this one.

    But a popping on decel kind of goes with the territory when you change intake and exhaust.

    You might be able to dial it out with the ignition manager but probably NOT because it really has NO control over the fuel ratio.

    I suspect you are going to have to live with it.....or start looking for richer pilot jets.
    That "ignition module" probably was a waste of money.
    There is only so much you can do with the spark.
    Don't believe everything that you think.

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    I'm back from fishing trip. I pulled the stator, looks like two of the coils are burnt. I've found a new stator, however part fitment description is " 03 XVS1100AW CAST WHEEL ". As far as I know the AW is north American designation for the v-star 1100 classic. I've no idea what is meant by " CAST WHEEL " I " Don't believe everything that I think " but I think the 1100 custom, classic and Silverado all use the same stator. True or false?

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    https://sites.google.com/site/vstar1...harging-system they all have the same motor., i think when the classics came out they had spoke wheels. the change over to a cast wheel was in the early years. classics and silverado's are the same, silverado came with saddle bags and a windscreen. both have 16" front wheels where the custom has 18" up front.on the link read the first chapter it's called "must do". never give the bike throttle when starting,

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    I've been looking at stators for this bike and the reason I ask about the " CAST WHEEL " is because one stator fitment description states it's for 03-09 v-star XVS1100AW (cast wheel). Reading part description and capabilities; Dimentionally; inside dia., outside dia. and thickness are all the same as the stator off the bike. capabilities; electronically read the same as the stator off the bike, except mine is to ground shorting out.
    This stator's wire to wire resistance is; white to white 0.8ohms +/- 20%, pickup coil black to grey 209ohms +/-20%. The pickup coil 2prong connections are rotated 90degs from the mating connection on the bike. The plastic connector does not match up with what's on the bike either, so this isn't going to work. The other stator I've been looking at; 99-03 v-star XVS1100; dimensionally is the same as what's on the bike however, capabilities electronically, the wire to wire resistance reads; white to white 0.4ohms+/-20% and the pickup coil black to grey 190ohms +/-20%. I guess I got off track from your last post NICKBEHAVIN but this issue has got my attention and put me in search mode. I've conditioned myself to start the bike in neutal with no throttle ever since I've owned the bike. Another issue is that battery at rest is supposed to read 12.5 and 12.8v. Mine is reading 13.6volts. It's sitting on the work bench, so no outside source to effect reading. Seems a bit high. I could read it as charging when it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 031100 View Post
    Another issue is that battery at rest is supposed to read 12.5 and 12.8v. Mine is reading 13.6volts. It's sitting on the work bench, so no outside source to effect reading. Seems a bit high. I could read it as charging when it's not.
    Yes that's a pretty big issue.
    Be sure your meter is set on DC and then measure another battery.

    Unless it is connected to a charger at the time, it should never read over 13.0.
    That is assuming that it is a "standard" type of battery and not something exotic like Lithium.
    Don't believe everything that you think.


 
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