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·new rider thinking about getting a gsx600 for first bike, will take it easy no rushing involved just want to get something I like, will never over do it because I love myself to much to do anything stupid any other suggestions
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Yup. That, and you'll learn to rely on the power of the bike instead of learning how to ride well. People tend to think that if the can keep up with a more experienced rider, that they are a good rider. Often, it's just big power making up for marginal skills and safety.louis said:
i have a question:
in my state of Aust, learner and newly licensed riders are restricted to 260cc for the 1st year (which is a bit pox), in some other Aust. states there is a power-weight equation (which means you can prob. get a DR650 but not a GSXR600). whatever.
my question is - how do you get insurance for a GSXR600 if you haven't even ridden before?
or do you just not get insurance?
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in my state of Aust, learner and newly licensed riders are restricted to 260cc for the 1st year (which is a bit pox), in some other Aust. states there is a power-weight equation (which means you can prob. get a DR650 but not a GSXR600). whatever.
my question is - how do you get insurance for a GSXR600 if you haven't even ridden before?
or do you just not get insurance?
sime
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·what about a Kat 600 for a first bike
Willie, the Kat would be better as a first bike than a GSX-R, but many people here (myself included) would recommend a 500CC sports-bike instead. The Ninja EX500 and Suzuki GS500 are good choices. The Kat is much more forgiving than the gixxer though. It is heavier, has less peak horsepower, but it is more comfortable. I own a Kat 750 and really enjoy it, but it is not my first bike.
I personally started on an old Yamaha Maxim 650. It didn't look like much, but it was great for learning how to ride and I didn't have to worry too much about dropping it. Learn to ride on something inexpensive and then after a season or two get something you really like.
I personally started on an old Yamaha Maxim 650. It didn't look like much, but it was great for learning how to ride and I didn't have to worry too much about dropping it. Learn to ride on something inexpensive and then after a season or two get something you really like.
Why don't you get an older GSX-R if you absolutely want one?
I am a relatively inexperienced rider in terms of seat time (about 100 hours on my own bike, a 1997 GSX-R750), but I read a lot and spend time with experienced riders.
I can tell you that older bikes (1997-1999 Gixxers, for instance) are cheaper to insure, not as likely to get stolen, are cheaper to repair if you drop them (tons of parts available, plus it's not as much of a killer as to drop a brand new bike) and are not quite as intimidating in terms of outright power as the new bikes. For instance, if you keep the revs below 9-10 grand and don't whack the throttle to the stop with these bikes, you can get acquainted with the handling caracteristics of a sportbike without having to worry about putting too much power to the ground.
Sure, it's not as easy to ride as a Ninja 500, GS-500 or SV650, but you get to learn how to handle a sportbike (a bit of a pain in slower manoeuvers, to be quite honest). Then it's up to you not to use the extra power (higher revs and more throttle) and speed potential until you are really comfortable with the bike and have learned how to cope with road trafic, road conditions and, most importantly, gotten the proper reflexes in "emergency" situations (like not braking into corners that you take a little too quick, looking in the right directions, being smooth with the brakes, upshifting and downshifting properly, etc.).
I see that as a cheap and valid alternative to so-called "beginner" bikes, albeit an alternative for people with a good dose of self-restraint and maturity.
Bring on the flames...
Best,
I am a relatively inexperienced rider in terms of seat time (about 100 hours on my own bike, a 1997 GSX-R750), but I read a lot and spend time with experienced riders.
I can tell you that older bikes (1997-1999 Gixxers, for instance) are cheaper to insure, not as likely to get stolen, are cheaper to repair if you drop them (tons of parts available, plus it's not as much of a killer as to drop a brand new bike) and are not quite as intimidating in terms of outright power as the new bikes. For instance, if you keep the revs below 9-10 grand and don't whack the throttle to the stop with these bikes, you can get acquainted with the handling caracteristics of a sportbike without having to worry about putting too much power to the ground.
Sure, it's not as easy to ride as a Ninja 500, GS-500 or SV650, but you get to learn how to handle a sportbike (a bit of a pain in slower manoeuvers, to be quite honest). Then it's up to you not to use the extra power (higher revs and more throttle) and speed potential until you are really comfortable with the bike and have learned how to cope with road trafic, road conditions and, most importantly, gotten the proper reflexes in "emergency" situations (like not braking into corners that you take a little too quick, looking in the right directions, being smooth with the brakes, upshifting and downshifting properly, etc.).
I see that as a cheap and valid alternative to so-called "beginner" bikes, albeit an alternative for people with a good dose of self-restraint and maturity.
Bring on the flames...
Best,
I have a gsxr-600. It is my first bike and i've only been riding it for about one season...there is snow on the ground now. I got it with 1300 miles on it with extra's like yosh exhaust and other crap for 5 grand. great deal I think. Nothing wrong with getting a fast bike for your first one I think...that's cause I did it. I'm not experienced and I don't pretend to be. I agree, you def will want to "floor" the bike and feel the power. I did and it scared me shitless. I owned a 12 second street car before the bike but trust me, fast in a car is not like fast on a motorcycle. in a car you can't feel wind or the front tire lifting off the ground like you can on a motorcycle. Your very open and it's scarey to me. However, I love riding around just cruising and being in the open. I try to push myself a little bit every time I go out and ride...then when I push myself too hard and end up with piss running down my leg I stop. If ya want that then get your gixxer but make it your bike forever. It will suck if ya drop it. I dropped mine only once so far parking it in the garage. I panicked going about 10 mph (fast in a garage) and slammed on the brakes.. I managed to jam my nuts on the gas tank, was in too much pain to hold the bike up and it fell to the ground...along with me. Painful but worth it!!! I love my bike. Let me know if you end up buying one and if you live close enough maybe we can teach each other. Also, I would highly reccomend taking a motorcycle safety course. They are free and you get to ride some cool little moto's.
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Absolutely. A racetrack bears that out time and time again.
Do it. You won't regret it.
They do not make as much HPs as the new bikes, but I think they are still VERY capable of intimidation. A 1997 is NOT the same as a 1987 either. SRAD bikes are still HP monsters.
Heh, heh, most American males are very short on those qualities. Myself included!
The lack thereof has caused many of the accidents I've seen. I agree. If you are mature and can reel in the machoism crap, then you can ride just about anything as a beginner bike.- Nut
I started out on a 1986 Honda elite 150 when I was 16, I’m glad I did because it taught me the basic of driving with only 2 wheels. I probably dropped it about 10 times and then later totaled it, wasn’t my fault.
My local community college has motorcycle safety courses, I believe it’s only $100 for the beginner, small bore bike provided, then they have intermediate $100 you provide your own bike. I’ve been thinking about taking the intermediate class but just haven’t had the time.
My local community college has motorcycle safety courses, I believe it’s only $100 for the beginner, small bore bike provided, then they have intermediate $100 you provide your own bike. I’ve been thinking about taking the intermediate class but just haven’t had the time.
Just a quick question, in america and canada is it not compulsory to have to complete a motorcycle training course before you are allowed on the road?
It is here in the uk, then after you pass your full m/c test you are restricted to 33 bhp for 2 years if you are under 21 years old. At least older riders by this point will have plenty of road experience in a car, i assume, which will have familiarised themselves to the road by this point.
I just assumed it would be the same the world over as it is a reasonable way to do things without youngsters racking up the accidents on large bikes.
It is here in the uk, then after you pass your full m/c test you are restricted to 33 bhp for 2 years if you are under 21 years old. At least older riders by this point will have plenty of road experience in a car, i assume, which will have familiarised themselves to the road by this point.
I just assumed it would be the same the world over as it is a reasonable way to do things without youngsters racking up the accidents on large bikes.
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In Quebec, you must first take a writtent exam to get a license(class 6R) that allows to ride a motorcycle for the duration of your course. You must hold on to that for at least a month. The class consists in 18hours of closed circuit and 4 on the road. Once finished your course, you get a certificate to that effect, you go pass a closed-circuit exam giving a temporary license (6A Temp). You must hold on to hat one 7 months. If you ride, you must be accompanied by someone who's had his permit for more than 2 years and you cannot take passengers. No restriction as for the time (some provinces, you cannot ride after dark with a temp license). After all that, you take a on the road exam where you are followed for about an hour by a car who evaluates you(city and highway driving). Then your home free. The only restriction you get is dependant on the bike you used to pass your exams.
6A: all motorcycles
6B: 400cc or less
6C: 125cc or less
6D: Moped/scooter with less than 50cc and must be automatic.
6A: all motorcycles
6B: 400cc or less
6C: 125cc or less
6D: Moped/scooter with less than 50cc and must be automatic.
87gsxrnut said:So what you saying gisxrnut?; I got no skills?????
Absolutely. A racetrack bears that out time and time again.
Can't wait till I get you on tha track (w/ my less than two years experience :lol:
Do it. You won't regret it.
I agree wholheartedly!
Agreed, newer superbikes are not inclined to allow you to make mistakes twice
They do not make as much HPs as the new bikes, but I think they are still VERY capable of intimidation. A 1997 is NOT the same as a 1987 either. SRAD bikes are still HP monsters.
Heh, heh, most American males are very short on those qualities. Myself included!
I do push myself on each ride but, my fear of skingrafts outweighs my ego...
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