[RaLiAl]

Hello everybody I´m new in the forum and also a future M50 owner I just need to pick it up from the dealer in a few days. It´s a brand New 2009 M50 SE Orange-Black...

This babe it´s my dream come true, since this model comes out in 2005 I get in love, it was love at first sight, and I´m very anxious to get it onand ride & ride & ride....

I have a question for all of you my new best friends,

Do I have to wait to complete the break-in process before changing the pipes, or I can put it on from the very first ride?

 

[slozomby]

personally i wait the 600 miles. dont think it makes a whole heck of alot of difference.

 

[MattMoore]

If the bike is under any warranty, it may be voided by the exhaust swap.

The break-in period on engines is usually to ensure rings and valves get seated properly. Depending on the exhaust diameter/design, you could lose backpressure (causing the engine to run lean). But all of this is hypothetical and can vary greatly based on situation.

Personally, i would break in (keep the revs down) all stock and put the exhaust in when you have a proper fuel controller (e.g. Power Commander) and maybe a new intake ;-P and do the whole thing at once (exhaust, intake, fuel remap).

 

[VII]

To add to above.. If this is your first bike ever, waiting the break in period may be wise since odds are you WILL drop your bike. Many do, I did. That way if you drop it on exhaust side and bang it all up no big deal since you are going to change pipes anyway. Also, I would take the break in period to learn the bike and how she rides before worrying about changing your pipes.

 

[Easy Rider]

Do I have to wait to complete the break-in process before changing the pipes,.....

Has it also been your dream to ride something that is obnoxioous and illegal ??

You don't HAVE to change them at all.

Loud pipes risk rights.

 

[intimid8er]

Easy. Can you please tone down the pipe rhetoric in every thread where the rider merely suggests he would like to debaffle or change pipes? Your thoughts and opinions on modifying anything on a bike are well documented here, and we appreciate them. However, sometimes, grown men do not like to be talked at like they are idiots for merely suggesting they'd like to do something you don't appreciate, or can't get your head around.

Granted you are entitled to your opinion, and we do issue a soapbox free with every membership. That soapbox, in case you've lost yours, is located within' the "Start New Thread" button. I'd love to see a dissertation on the subject by you, rather than taking a crap in everyone's threads. Make a good enough dissertation, and we'll make it a Sticky.

In this case, the OP merely asked if he should change them before the break-in period is up. Have an opinion on that? We'd be glad to hear it.

 

[rapta619]

hey yuppie, go ride a freaking moped,
loud pipes save lives. go walk onto a bar packed with bikers and run your mouth, video tape it so I can see u get ur ares kicked.

back to topic, congrats, Ive got the same exact bike as you and got 2400 miles on her this year. other then bluing your safe, but beware our year 09 is a hated year. very limited on stuff that's come out for us ( no k&n , limited exhaust ) . it sucks. but orange rocks! and don't mind the haters, as long as ur not stupid you wont dump it. I've got 30,000 miles + and haven't dumped it. im sure I will, but %%%%% happens.
and get a new seat, the stockers suck, stay away from gel.

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[Easy Rider]

Can you please tone down the pipe rhetoric in every thread where the rider merely suggests he would like to debaffle or change pipes?

No, sorry.

I pass over a LOT of opportunities to make snide remarks about loud pipes.......but I will not pass over them all.

I feel very strongly about the subject, not to mention that it is illegal in all of the US.

I am really sorry that you find my opinion objectionable, just as I find loud pipes objectionable.

What better time to express my opinion than when a new rider suggests getting louder pipes ???

Do I hear an implied threat in your post ??

P.S. At the end, I did answer his question. Maybe you should read the WHOLE post.

 

[slozomby]

I feel very strongly about the subject, not to mention that it is illegal in all of the US.

check the law again.
http://www.epa.gov/Compliance/resources/policies/civil/caa/mobile/admem1a.pdf
Memo 1A provides, in part, that the use of an aftermarket part, alteration or add-on part
will not constitute tampering if the dealer has a “reasonable basis” to believe that such acts will not
adversely affect emissions performance. It also provides specific procedures or options by which
the dealer would have a “reasonable basis”.

 

[rapta619]

easy rider, your a troll. go troll somewhere else. it's not illegal. and you call yourself easy rider? hmm if I remember right they had LOUD PIPES in that movie. yuppie.

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[hanksta1969]

Wow i think i will keep my opinion to myself except to say i agree with mattmoore, if the bike is under warranty i would wait

 

[tj1964]

Pipes, tires, and oil....

 

[slozomby]

easy rider, your a troll. go troll somewhere else. it's not illegal. and you call yourself easy rider? hmm if I remember right they had LOUD PIPES in that movie. yuppie.

. i wouldnt call him a troll. he just really doesnt like loud pipes. personally i dont like them much either. deep yes, loud not so much.

drilling and debaffling is illegal. some after market pipes exceed noise regluations ( particularly where i live in Cali).

im on the fence on the loud pipes save lives. while i would prefer a deeper sound from the motor i dont nessisarily want louder pipes. i know my neighbors w/ young kids prefer my bike being quieter. there are some bikes that are far too quiet, BMW Touring bikes. there are some bikes that are far too loud ( if i can hear it in my living room over the races in surround sound from several streets over). from my experience, soccer moms in suv's w/ kids in the back are just as likely to ignore a loud bike.

as far as the original topic goes.

Personally, i would break in (keep the revs down) all stock and put the exhaust in when you have a proper fuel controller (e.g. Power Commander) and maybe a new intake ;-P and do the whole thing at once (exhaust, intake, fuel remap).

i agree

 

[300winmag]

Easy, Take it easy and do us ALL a favor by reading "The Trajectory of Forum Membership" in the off topic area.

I debaffled, it made my pipes just a bit louder but way deeper. So happy I did it and its still not loud enough to wake my neighbors at 2 am.
Wait till after the break in period before playing with the pipes.

 

[VII]

*sigh* ya know the guy asked a simple question. I dont recall him asking for a sermon

 

[Easy Rider]

Wow i think i will keep my opinion to myself

Your call but that's exactly what the bullys want.

Everybody here is free to express their opinion............as long as it agrees with THEM.

Otherwise your are a troll or worse.

Must be uncomfortable to be so insecure in your position that a little expression of an opposing view makes you fly into personal attacks.
Sad.

 

[intimid8er]

Easy. Can you please tone down the pipe rhetoric in every thread where the rider merely suggests he would like to debaffle or change pipes? Your thoughts and opinions on modifying anything on a bike are well documented here, and we appreciate them. However, sometimes, grown men do not like to be talked at like they are idiots for merely suggesting they'd like to do something you don't appreciate, or can't get your head around.

Granted you are entitled to your opinion, and we do issue a soapbox free with every membership. That soapbox, in case you've lost yours, is located within' the "Start New Thread" button. I'd love to see a dissertation on the subject by you, rather than taking a crap in everyone's threads. Make a good enough dissertation, and we'll make it a Sticky.

In this case, the OP merely asked if he should change them before the break-in period is up. Have an opinion on that? We'd be glad to hear it.

Do I hear an implied threat in your post ??

Those that hear threats are the ones always looking for them. I've pored over my post, and try as I might, as much as try and piece it together, I still can't find a threat anywhere in there. Merely, a polite invitation to enlighten us all on loud pipes, in a thread, started by you, and full of your thoughts and opinions. I fail to see where that is a suppression of free speech?

P.S. At the end, I did answer his question. Maybe you should read the WHOLE post.

That was never a doubt. Maybe you should've read my whole post?

 

[RaLiAl]

thanks to everybody for your opinions....

I think I´ll wait to complete the break-in process to don´t void the warranty...

Like a lot of you guys I´m agree with the fact that loud pipes safe lives. & The great sound that can produce it has no words to explain...

I respect EASY´s opinion "Loud pipes risk rights" but it´s his own opinion... And it depends in how loud the pipes are.

I prefer to safe lifes than risk rights.

Thanks again and I´m happy to be part of this family and way of life

 

[Easy Rider]

Those that hear threats are the ones always looking for them.

Merely, a polite invitation to enlighten us all on loud pipes, in a thread, started by you, and full of your thoughts and opinions.

I fail to see where that is a suppression of free speech?

My question about a threat was an honest question.
I just wanted to be sure where I stand with you.
Some other fourms won't stand for any disagreement with those in charge.

My position of excessivley loud pipes is simple: It is offensive to most people. It is illegal, not only by virture of the Federal EPA rules but also in most communities that have excessive noise, disturbing the peace laws. The more loud pipes there ARE, the more likely there is to be oppressive legislation. While all of those things are opinions, they are also facts.

I don't think I actually said anything about supressing free speech but simply making the request exhibits a certain bias......and nobody EVER asks others to stop talking about how loud their pipes are or how to get them that way.

Fair is fair and oppressing one side of a disagreement is not fair.

Also please note that it is not ME that resorts to name calling and character attacks but the "other side".

 

[slozomby]

. It is illegal, not only by virture of the Federal EPA rules...While all of those things are opinions, they are also facts.

the facts are: the EPA has amended the initial rule to state that aftermarket pipes that pass certification are perfectly legal. and modifications can be approved. however no one to my knowledge has ever tried to get their pipes certified after taking the power drill or hole saw to them.

here is the amendment that allows for certification and aftermarket goods. http://www.epa.gov/Compliance/resources/policies/civil/caa/mobile/admem1a.pdf

while im not a huge fan of loud pipes. i'm also not a fan of telling people something is illegal when it is not.