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Hi guys! Haven't been around here in a while. New VB software looks good!

The reason I dropped in for a little visit was to share some information that has recently made headlines that you folks may or may not be aware of about a 911 officer saying "yeah...too bad" and hanging up in response to a motorcycle accident with serious injury. I have this story and petition stickied over on my forum and want to share it with as many motorcyclists as possible.
Please, please take a second to read this story and join us in petitining the state of Connecticut to take further action.

http://www.katriders.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4893

Please share this with every motorcyclist you come in contact with.
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Wassup Braada? How you been? How's the biz?

Sad story indeed. I hope your petition gets him further reprimand (including dismissal).
Hey! How's things! Louis still causing trouble over here ;)

The petition isn't mine but I believe solidly in supporting it. The story is tragic and seeing the father on the Today show this morning just drove it further home for me. Probably because I have sons that will be riding one day and if this happened to them I would just lose it. NO ONE should ever be told "too bad" when they reach out for the one resource designed to be the first response in saving lives. I have the utmost respect for those that put their lives on the line to protect and serve and this just makes my stomach turn.
 

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The petition is to get the officer booted plus legal action afterwords.

I would be in favor of something stronger than a 2 week suspension without pay. I would not be in favor of taking the guy's job then fining and jailing him because it's my opinion that the story seems incomplete.

I doubt what was typed in that article was the whole story and I think there might have been underlying factors leading to the officer's response... That and my mistrust of the media in general (news IS a business with an agenda to sell). If the petition was different I would sign, but I only express my opinion so that maybe people would consider what this means before crucifying someone they don't know for something they don't know all the facts about.
 

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Ohhh, that guy's in for a world of hurt whether or not he loses his job, which I think he will even without a petition. I don't envy him one bit for the next few years.

BTW, good call, SD. I'm always looking at the back side of issues like this, but it usually just gets me in trouble. Nice to see someone else doing the same.
 

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Hi Braada, nice to see you haven't forgotten us.

About the incident, this is what we've heard about it and although the "too bad" comment was out of line, would you be asking for a petition to be signed if the downed rider had been a fleeing bank robber or child molester ?.

The trooper did do the rest of his job correctly and had dispatched the necessary ressources to the site. I think he will have learned his lesson.

Hold on everyone. On another board I frequent, a trooper with the same force posted the information that led up to that 911 call. Let's just say that the media has omitted a whole bunch of stuff that paints a completely different picture.

In a nutshell, what I gathered is:

- a group of riders was stunting and generally being complete squids. Purportedly they nearly ran at least one car off the road.

- complaints were made to the police and the dispatcher sent troopers out to address the unruly behaviour.

- at some point one of the squids binned it and sustained what would prove to be fatal injuries.

- the dispatcher learned of the crash (how - not sure) and dispatched more troopers and EMS to respond.

- THEN someone makes the 911 call that had made it onto CNN (and everywhere else). The dispatcher had already received complaints about their riding; had sent police; had learned of the wreck and dispatched resources to handle THAT. After all of this, he then responded rudely - but remember that help had already been sent and the squidly group had already made themselves well known by their actions.

A somewhat different spin on the events, in my opinion. The police union is also fighting the trooper's unpaid suspension.
 

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The petition is to get the officer booted plus legal action afterwords.

I would be in favor of something stronger than a 2 week suspension without pay. I would not be in favor of taking the guy's job then fining and jailing him because it's my opinion that the story seems incomplete.

I doubt what was typed in that article was the whole story and I think there might have been underlying factors leading to the officer's response... That and my mistrust of the media in general (news IS a business with an agenda to sell). If the petition was different I would sign, but I only express my opinion so that maybe people would consider what this means before crucifying someone they don't know for something they don't know all the facts about.
Yours is a point that has been brought up in other places too. I'll agree with you that asking for criminal charges or revoking of his pension is a little much but 15 days leave is not punishment, it's a vacation. As a law enforcment officer his job is to protect and serve. That is not something that is at will or applies to only certain members of the public, It applies to everyone, every day. Law enforcment MUST remain impartial to physical, cultural and economic circumstances AT ALL TIMES. Wearing that badge absolutely MUST hold them to a higher standard, period. It does not give them the right to determine who lives and who dies and who deserves help and who does not. Trooper Peasley did exactly that in this instance and by doing so made the choice to no longer fulfill the duties and oath that he took upon entering law enforcement.
If you were unfortunate enough to hear the tapes played on the news yesterday morning as I was, you can easily hear from his tone and attitude that he had no care, interest or concern for Mr. Sawyer.
I personally do not believe that his actions were criminal, they do however warrant at bare minimum demotion and a full retraining. He was not simply insensitive, he was neglegent in fulfilling his duties, not once but twice in a matter of minutes. Could simply have staying on the phone, gathering facts to assess the situation and giving instruction to the caller on immediate care been a factor in saving Mr. Sawyers life? We will never know, but instructing someone who is panicked in those precious minutes when someone is bleeding out can mean the difference in life or death BEFORE professional medical attention arrives.
This isn't about being insensitive or not giving a kind word to a child, this is about total and complete disregard for human life which is a luxury that law enforcement is not allowed.
As for the petition asking for the harshest of penalties, experience has taught that you always ask for the maximum and work down from there. I didn't write the petition and I don't believe for a second that criminal charges or revocation of his pension will occur but rather that huge support of that strong of a punishment will help send the message that merely giving him 2 weeks off is just not enough.
 

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Jim, did you read what UB posted? Doesn't seem like it. If it's accurate, I see no negligence, other than that of politeness.

I had a feeling we were only hearing part of the story. The news media are not to be trusted, and that's why I didn't run off and sign.
 

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Officers on the 911 line should never be judgmental, no matter what jerk is need of help.
If possible they should be supportive. But if that's not possible, at least they should be neutrally polite. When someone is about to die, you don't say "too bad".
 
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