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So there I am crusing my local road in route to pick my SO up from school. When I turn the corner to see thousands of other students and several police officers surrounding a intersection in front of a 7 Eleven. My first thought was that someone had been shot, why else would so many ppl stand around couldnt just be a minor fendor bender. However to my surprise as i drove further I saw a Yamaha R1 2004 Ripped in two pieces one imbedded into the grassy hill the other several feet from the accident scene. Closer observation reveals a camry slung upward onto another grassy hill and its side is basically caved in. And then I saw it what i never thought i would there layed the body of another motorcyclist with full gear on leathers boots etc.... the police didnt do a good job covering this gentlemen with there white sheet I could see he had black leathers and a gray helmet. I didnt stop to access or ask what happened my only guess is the motorcyclist was going to fast, a car was turning into the 7 Eleven and POW instant death. Just wanted to share this because it just happened literally. Just a reminder to Daman and others that consider the faster you go on public roads the better. Ride responsibly, I can remember when DaMan wrote a post saying he stalled his bike 5 times plus on his way home and to hear that hes already considering taking his life into his own hands is a bit puzzeling. DaMan i know you dont know me but as a fellow rider please take more consideration into your choices i know your life is your own but it would greatly if you died doing something inresponsible.
 

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that sucks. Only 1 month ago here in sacramento , i saw a car make a left turn from suicide lane in front of a bike.I have no idea if the guy thought the bike was going slow or if he never saw him(usualy the case) but i saw it happen.WHAM!!! Not something i ever wanna see again.Made me go STRAIGHT home ,after giving statement ,and not ride the rest of the day. Needless to say the rider died probably instantly.He hit a POS honda civic with stupid gfx on it.A rice rocket punk. Isnt that involentary manslaughter? or vehicular MS ?
 

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A situation where going too slow... I was driving on a long straight (in car) on Sunday between my community and another and only a minute or so ahead of me were six people riding motorcycle. Anyway the last rider had slowed down for some reason and a girl driving a Chev pick-up (who wasn't paying attention) rear ends the guy, sending him and his bike (a Shadow 800) crashing to the pavement.

The guy jumped up without a scratch and was able to drive his back back to his house (at a very slow speed), but he won't be doing any more riding until the spring.

Not condoning driving fast - just thought this was odd and a situation where not keeping pace with traffic can also be dangerous.
 

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Thanks for the wakeup, Novaz. It happens all the time. Too bad you had to see it, but at least you can make it a lesson.
 
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if you can, give us a link from your local news website. i like to read the exact things that happened, then comapre it with eyewitness accounts if possible.
 

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Yeah, local news. Fair. Balanced. Accurate. Bullsheit. Boycott the talking heads!
 

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Just a reminder to Daman and others that consider the faster you go on public roads the better
Yeah but what's the point of having a sportsbike if you're not going to open it up and enjoy it, might as well buy a scooter and console yourself to 50mph boredom for the rest of your life.
All it is is a question of riding responsibly, it's unwise to be going above 20 outside a school because someone WILL step out in front of you, same for high streets with lots of shops, pedestrians are like sheep/lemmings and don't care whether they have looked before they step from the kerb, then they take the same attitude back to the car (end rant).
But on the motorway or country lanes where there is less slow moving and turning traffic and obstruction why not go fast, get knees down while cornering and enjoy biking.[/i]
 

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Exactly! What is the point of having a sportbike if you can't ride it like it was meant to be ridden , and that is on a race track !

Sure you have the right to buy it but you know damn well when signing on the dotted line that you can't responsably and legally ride the thing to it's full potential on public roads.

Owning a supersport bike is not an excuse to endanger others and give responsable riders a bad name and increase costs of riding ( permits, plates, insurance, etc...) and to possibly cost us rights.

Not to say that all supersport riders do this, some just like knowing that their bike is capable and handles very well without having to prove their manhood with a throttle twist.

What's the point of owning a gun if you can't kill someone with it ? Makes as much sense !

And for all you riders that feel it's okay to get your knees down on country roads, let me tell you that that is probably the worst place to do it. You may ride for miles without seeing another soul, then a tractor coming out of a field muddies up the road, etc.....
 

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Just a reminder to Daman and others that consider the faster you go on public roads the better
Yeah but what's the point of having a sportsbike if you're not going to open it up and enjoy it, might as well buy a scooter and console yourself to 50mph boredom for the rest of your life.
All it is is a question of riding responsibly, it's unwise to be going above 20 outside a school because someone WILL step out in front of you, same for high streets with lots of shops, pedestrians are like sheep/lemmings and don't care whether they have looked before they step from the kerb, then they take the same attitude back to the car (end rant).
But on the motorway or country lanes where there is less slow moving and turning traffic and obstruction why not go fast, get knees down while cornering and enjoy biking.[/i]
Why not? Let's see:
1) Deer
2) Tractors
3) Cars :shock: (and on a country road, too. who would've guessed? I thought the road was there for MC racing!)
4) Sand
5) Gravel
6) Oil spots
7) Anything else that will get you killed.


P.S. Every driver walks to their car/motorcycle (including you). Does that make them all lemmings, willing to get out in front of other moving objects?

I live on a country road. Country folks don't call the cops when they need to handle traffic.
 

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Isn't it great buying a house in the country, for the fresh air, peace and quiet and not worrying about the kids getting into trouble.

But you can't leave your kid use the roads because of the yahoos who think they've discovered their own private race track.
 

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So there I am crusing my local road in route to pick my SO up from school. When I turn the corner to see thousands of other students and several police officers surrounding a intersection in front of a 7 Eleven. My first thought was that someone had been shot, why else would so many ppl stand around couldnt just be a minor fendor bender. However to my surprise as i drove further I saw a Yamaha R1 2004 Ripped in two pieces one imbedded into the grassy hill the other several feet from the accident scene. Closer observation reveals a camry slung upward onto another grassy hill and its side is basically caved in. And then I saw it what i never thought i would there layed the body of another motorcyclist with full gear on leathers boots etc.... the police didnt do a good job covering this gentlemen with there white sheet I could see he had black leathers and a gray helmet. I didnt stop to access or ask what happened my only guess is the motorcyclist was going to fast, a car was turning into the 7 Eleven and POW instant death. Just wanted to share this because it just happened literally. Just a reminder to Daman and others that consider the faster you go on public roads the better. Ride responsibly, I can remember when DaMan wrote a post saying he stalled his bike 5 times plus on his way home and to hear that hes already considering taking his life into his own hands is a bit puzzeling. DaMan i know you dont know me but as a fellow rider please take more consideration into your choices i know your life is your own but it would greatly if you died doing something inresponsible.
couple of things. Phease there is a time and place and most regular roads aren't the place. It's dangerous b/c there are vary surfaces on the road. The only times I've opened it up are are new stretches of concrete that I know very well. I'm still taking that chance b/c there might be debris.

Novaz you are confused. I've never said going faster is better. I simply stated the fastest speed I've been at. if you read some follow up to that post, I also said that speed has become almost a non issue and it's becoming more about twisties and the pure handling dynamics of the bike. I like the quickness of the bike more than flat out speed anyway. When I'm on city streets and residential areas I'm incredibly cautious and am only guilty of leaving my bike in low gears just to let that exhaust whine and if I need to let the engine scrub off speed.

Sorry to hear about that dude. Gotta ride with some fingers on that front brake and that foot ready to hit the rear break.

edit: oh yeh I stalled that bike about 25 times on that hill and I overheard, "rev it to 3" and had a brain fart thinking he meant 300 not 3K. But it's all good now and that was my first day. :D
 

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Just a reminder to Daman and others that consider the faster you go on public roads the better
Yeah but what's the point of having a sportsbike if you're not going to open it up and enjoy it, might as well buy a scooter and console yourself to 50mph boredom for the rest of your life.
All it is is a question of riding responsibly, it's unwise to be going above 20 outside a school because someone WILL step out in front of you, same for high streets with lots of shops, pedestrians are like sheep/lemmings and don't care whether they have looked before they step from the kerb, then they take the same attitude back to the car (end rant).
But on the motorway or country lanes where there is less slow moving and turning traffic and obstruction why not go fast, get knees down while cornering and enjoy biking.[/i]
Thats why they call it a RACE TRACK, exactly what Uncle Bob said. Ever heard of the AMA's? theres a reason you dont see Mike Mladin racing his Super Bike down I-95, and there professional racers. Bikers that race on public roads are nothing more then inressponsible, they dont take into consideration the lifes of others and they ignore the laws of the road. If you purchased a SPorts Bike to open it up then take it to a track thats the responsible thing to do.
 

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I don't think it's fair to assume this was the rider's fault. Why? Because that's Novaz's guess? Or, because it was an R1? You [meaning the board in general - not pointing to anyone specifically] don't think the car could have been speeding? This is the kind of mass public opinion, that gives motoryclists a bad name every day. :(

A couple of weeks ago, one of my good friends who is a Capt. in the FD got a call about a sportbike and rider crushed under a truck. All they could tell was that it was a sportbike, they couldn't ascertain the gender or any details of the rider. As it was the truck hit the biker, because he didn't look when coming out of a gas station. The biker's speed wasn't an issue/cause. Needless to say the truck driver was at fault, and the biker was killed on impact. His body had to be pried off of his bike, and from under th truck, by the medics. Many would look at this and assume it was the rider who was negligent instead of the driver.
 

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Not to say that all supersport riders do this, some just like knowing that their bike is capable and handles very well without having to prove their manhood with a throttle twist.
Exactly!! :!:
 
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