[veteq]

I always use my clutch to change gears but after some reading I do understand that bike clutches differ from cars....So I tried it.

It's very smooth when shifting but I can only get it to shift at 6000 rpm and 8000rpm in 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th..... what am I missing.....

Veteq

 

[Clint]

http://www.suzuki-bikes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4310

http://www.suzuki-bikes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2624

http://www.suzuki-bikes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2596

It's all about matching the revs of the tranny to the revs of the engine. Doesn't matter where that happens, only that it does happen. Most agree that it should only be done for racing, since it will shorten the life of your tranny. They don't put clutches on every bike on the planet for nothing.

Other than the fact that most motorcycle clutches are bathed in engine oil, they operate similarly to and perform the same duty as a car's.

 

[Janis]

There is no reason to shift gear without using the clutch while riding public roads, cause you're not interested in lap times there.
On sportbikes the shift and friction are made to perform perfectly over 6/7000 rpm, that's why you will find it easier to upshift when your engine is on high rpm.
Upshifting is very smooth w/o using the clutch, especially at 13/14000 rpm. But I've tried to downshift w/o pulling the clutch (by mistake, since it was the first time I was using the reverse gear box) and it worked just fine. Since a bike you use only at the tracks will perform less miles and have more maintainance, my advise is not to do it while riding the roads, if you don't want to spend extra money on your bike.

 

[fireblade1]

big no no

Just a little advice. It's nice to have a no clutch shift. Especially on the track. The drawback: Bent shift forks!! Unless you have plenty of time to rebuild drive train and shift linkage I would strongly suggest against it. It's extremely hard on the bike. Besides, using the clutch properly keeps the plates properly lubed. Not using it properly will allow it to get "hot spots" and allow for some slippage at the wrong times.

 

[veteq]

thank you for all the replies,
This same question was asked in another forum (another bike manufacture), I was wondering if the same principal applied to Suzuki.....

quote:Originally posted by Jack_R1
To my best knowledge, clutch in motorcycle trannies doesn't do anything but disengage the engine. It doesn't hold the gear.

Don't close the gas, just drop the revs for a split second, barely noticeable move. Start trying it in high gears - 5 and 6. Preload the lever, and chop the throttle slightly for a split sec. The gear should slide in. When you'll feel smooth upshifting in the highest gears, move lower. And practice... I'm still clunky sometimes, when the revs aren't up high.



You are absolutely correct! All the clutch does is engage/disengage the crank to the trans. Chopping the throttle for a few milliseconds relieves the pressure just like disengaging the clutch and shifting, only you take more time to do it. The Dynojet Quickshifter does the same thing by cutting off the fuel injectors for approx. 40 milliseconds (or whatever you set it at) to allow the shift. The clutch has nothing to do with the trans except to connect it to the crank.

Veteq

 

[fireblade1]

careful now

Be careful utilizing this method of shifting, it can cause you to "jump" out of gear because your gear transfer has not been as complete as it would with the clutch. I speak from personal experience on this one. I tried power shifting on the track and it hopped out of 2nd and 3rd gear while I was leaned on a beautiful long right hander. The kind of thing that makes you go into "oh sh!t" mode.

 

[SDSUsnowboards]

I want to reverse my gears(and will right after christmas hits). I don't understand why they make you balance on your heels to upshift (the biggest source of Gs for the riding I do). This is especially problematic with dirtbikes as you are on your heels while bouncing around on unstable ground.

 

[shaggs69r]

I want to reverse my gears(and will right after christmas hits). I don't understand why they make you balance on your heels to upshift (the biggest source of Gs for the riding I do). This is especially problematic with dirtbikes as you are on your heels while bouncing around on unstable ground.

i totally agree on my old ts185 its hard to balance on your heels plus find gear when u need to. Reversal would be great

 

[inspiron]

Um, shaggs, you replied to a thread that is more than a year old ... most of the people who posted in this thread aren't even here anymore.

 

[Nexus242]

Um, shaggs, you replied to a thread that is more than a year old ... most of the people who posted in this thread aren't even here anymore.

Yeah but I'd pay real money to hear Janis quote Bladerunner in Italian to me.

 

[inspiron]

:leg2:

 

[Nexus242]

:leg2:

takes one to know one.

 

[inspiron]

Yes, but I haven't seen SG1 around here much lately ...

 

[Nexus242]

Yes, but I haven't seen SG1 around here much lately ...

Yeah the girls come and go but in the end your always left with a room full of horny guys. What are ya gonna do?

 

[87gsxrnut]

Yeah but I'd pay real money to hear Janis quote Bladerunner in Italian to me.

Been there. DONE that.

Yeah, you wish you were me.

- Nut