Point taken. I did assume he was riding too hot and by no means meant to infer that he was squidy. I'm just soo thankful for the MSF and Proficient Motorcyling book and all the input from this site (saftey) that pops up in the back of my mind when I ride (ex. you better slow dowwn!!! or What's around that blind curve) I don't mean to throw dirt on the dead only help me (us) think and stay among the living.Drake said:personally just don't like making the assumption and I guess would just prefer to think of it as an accident and not "some squid". That's just my outlook.