My take on HDs is you're paying for a name and an image. Take away the HD image and what do you have? Is an HD really worth that kind of money? And if you buy and HD, are you buying it for yourself or are you buying so other people can see you on an HD? Personally, I'd go with the Suzuki. It's engine is designed in 'this' century, not the last. It's liquid cooled and you won't have to take out a loan and give up your first born for parts and maintenance. Then, ask yourself, which will I have more fun on.Dr. Bob,
If they are apples and oranges what is the best and worst of each? Why are Harleys so much more $$$? I live by Cooks Corner here in OC and it is 90% Harleys. No two Harley's are a like and the following is dedicated. The Asian bikes have a divided market they are pretty much the same. I am not trying to answer my own questions but looking for the pros and cons of each.
I posted the question here because of the Suzuki preference and I currently ride a Bandit and this site has good feedback.
Thanks for the information guys.
Loki Ca, you have a point.
Good points but once your warranty is up low miles or not if an engine or trans fails on a brand X cruiser you're up a creek pretty much,just look around this site and you'll find a few in that boat.I just jumped over to a Victory with an air cooled engine and it is not as bad as I thought. A little warm on my right leg. I also looked at getting a Harley road king or street glide. Both are great bikes with some of the best paint and chrome you can get in a bike but price and fit is what drove me away. The resale value on a Harley does not mean as much as it used to, atleast in my neck of the woods. Our local classifides are full of used bikes and 9 out of 10 are HD's and the majority of those are newer models. The SG's are holding pretty good but the rest are selling really cheap. I looked at a couple of gently used Road Kings that were a few years old for much less than the MSRP but I just couldn't fit on them very well (long legs) plus I wanted my next bike to be a new one. As far as engine rebuilds go, for the majority of riders (including myself), they will not put enough miles on them to ever see a rebuild unless they abuse the crap out of them. The main thing is to buy what you like and can afford, all bikes made these days are very reliable.
Well H-D makes a hell of a lot more bikes than Vic,they make more big cruisers than anyone so it's a percentage deal,more bikes made so more with problems even if they have no higher percentage of problem bikes than brand X but that was not my point.Y2K, are you trying to say that the new HD engines are bullet proof and never break down after warranty? I don't know about the HD's in your neck of the woods but everybody and their momma has one down here and have had a few buddies/family members over the years with some serious engine/tranny problems on their HD's. I've also been reading about some problems with the new 103 but then again you could read about problems with any engine. I am not a supporter of any company and even though I went with Victory over an HD I do not owe them anything and don't plan on being a cheerleader for them either nor any bike company.
Good old small block Chevys,that is very much what a Harley is like so a good comparo.I see what you are saying and I'm sure you are probably right (worked on plenty of chevy 350's but never a motorcycle motor). I have a cousin who bought one of the ugliest harleys I have ever seen early last summer, an 80's model that I assumed was an ultraglide, in metallic brown and beat all to pieces. He quickly was able to rebuild the motor and then had it lowered and painted black and now looks like a SG. I do hope Victory can make it as well, not because I own one but competetion, especially between two american companies, is a good thing. Will help keep prices down and quality up. On the other side I really have to wonder if Victory will make it for the long haul. I bought my Cross Roads because I loved the look, fit me better than any bike has so far, powerful engine, and I got it for much less than MSRP and inluded a 5 year powertrain warranty. The downside is that there are very few dealers near me and the 3 closest are all terrible to deal with. Just took my bike in for the 500 mile service and they basically just changed the oil and made sure the lights work. I asked about the belt tension and was told not to worry about it. Just downloaded a shop manual and like my M50, will be doing the work myself. Victory really needs better dealers and more of them if they are going to make it big IMO.