I have learned from all the members at Suzuki-bike forums that rideing bikes isnt all about going fast and doing tricks. Its about a passion of something you like doing. Taking a risk every time you take your bike out of the garage not knowing what might happen. As i said before i wanted to get a Gsx-R 1000 so i could be a bad az on a bike. But i have learned that is wrong, specialy for a beg. rider. So i think that it would be in my best intrest not to get that bike based upon what you all have said. I am going to go with a gsx-r 600. yes i know it maybe more bike then i can handle but if i ride safe and be careful about things that i do i will be ok. I will take the MSF class soon and i will have learned some things about riding. And I am also sorry if i upset anyone with comments i have made on this site.
Things i have learned.
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You have expressed more maturity in that single post that some folks express their whole lives.
A 600 ain't a good beginner bike, but at least it ain't a 1000.
Whatever you do, be careful. Young folks don't wake up with the aches and pains of every crash, every a$$-kicking, every "hey y'all watch-is," etc., so they often feel invincible (I still feel invincible sometimes and I'm 35, with multiple aches/pains).
You've got many, many years to get that 1000. By waiting, it'll be sweeter and you'll be a much better rider.
A 600 ain't a good beginner bike, but at least it ain't a 1000.
Whatever you do, be careful. Young folks don't wake up with the aches and pains of every crash, every a$$-kicking, every "hey y'all watch-is," etc., so they often feel invincible (I still feel invincible sometimes and I'm 35, with multiple aches/pains).
You've got many, many years to get that 1000. By waiting, it'll be sweeter and you'll be a much better rider.
that means alot to me meat man. i will be safe on the 600 i promise i will try. and i will make sure if i do anything stupid its with a very good rider next to me and in a closed off or abaden area. ( talking about a wheelie not stand on the bike with my head and putting my feet in the air going 65 mph)
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that is good to hear. I am a beginner rider in terms of sport bikes..been riding dirtbikes all my life. But my 650 is perfect for me. I don't need go to any faster than it allows me, i don't need to get up to that speed any faster than it allows me to either. As a youth your brain is still maturing this is a fact. before you think about doing something on a bike, ask yourself is this really smart? alot of the time when you think it is something cool to do (stunting on the road) it is dumb and could hurt alot of people besides yourself. So good work on deciding for a 600, and be safe. get gear! gear will save your life it is only a matter of time. good riding.
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yeah any bike is dangerous but it depends how u ride it, i got the gsxr 600 agaimnst all advise from friends etc for my first bike, and they all said they are proud of how i ride it. i definately wouldnt get anythign bigger than a 600 as a first bike but theres nothing wrong with the 6, its bloody enough for road use and to be fair ud be better on roads on a 600 than a thou no matter how long u been riding. as for wheelies, yeah by all means learn to stunt but like u say do it in a safe place, i have started to and i enjoy it, but simply riding is the best feeling
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Just to confuse things a bit ... :twisted:
Engine size is not the only factor. I'm sure that any 600 "R" bike (be it a Suzuki GSX-R, a Honda CBR, a Yamaha R1/R6 or a Kawa ZXR) would be faster and "touchier" than my GSX 1400. My bike has massive torque, and has plenty of horsepower, but it's geared for street riding, not for speed.
Bottom line is that an "R" bike is a racing bike with lights and a license plate. A racing bike is NOT a beginner's bike.
If you *must* buy a new bike to learn on (which none of us recommends), Suzuki has a number of excellent "starter" bikes - the GSF and SV lines are great looking bikes, and are much more forgiving for new riders. And don't forget the top selling bike in Europe in 2004 - the Honda CBF 600. A solid bike - nothing revolutionary, but well established technologies and a very affordable bike.
Engine size is not the only factor. I'm sure that any 600 "R" bike (be it a Suzuki GSX-R, a Honda CBR, a Yamaha R1/R6 or a Kawa ZXR) would be faster and "touchier" than my GSX 1400. My bike has massive torque, and has plenty of horsepower, but it's geared for street riding, not for speed.
Bottom line is that an "R" bike is a racing bike with lights and a license plate. A racing bike is NOT a beginner's bike.
If you *must* buy a new bike to learn on (which none of us recommends), Suzuki has a number of excellent "starter" bikes - the GSF and SV lines are great looking bikes, and are much more forgiving for new riders. And don't forget the top selling bike in Europe in 2004 - the Honda CBF 600. A solid bike - nothing revolutionary, but well established technologies and a very affordable bike.
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Glad you heard some of what was said. I ride a 1k like you wanted. Had it three years now. It still scares the crap out of me every once in a while, and I've been riding for 33 years now. But then I'm old and slow too. I used to ride faster and farther! :mrgreen:
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RowdyNut?87gsxrnut said:
Its always good to see someone taking a step back and realizing their limitations as a new rider ! Good call.. not everyone, including myself, would still recommend a gixxer for a first bike.. but hey, its your call, so ride safe, be responsible, and respect the road, the others on it, your machine, and yourself!
Wait till you take the MSF before you buy any bike. I'm betting you will change your mind about even going with a 600. Also make sure you check insurance rates before you buy. Your insurance payments will probably be more than the bike payments. Good luck and be carefull
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I didn't mean to imply that I thought a 6er was a good choice, just that I'm glad he's nol onger looking at the 1k. I'd personally get myself a new blue SV 650. Sweet bike! Now that 's just me.
Hey Louis, when you gonna bring it by so I can take for spin on the Crest? :mrgreen:
Hey Louis, when you gonna bring it by so I can take for spin on the Crest? :mrgreen:
To put things into perspective, on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being the easiest bike to master and 10 requiring the most skill and experience to ride properly.
I would put a 50cc scooter at 1, a GS500 at 5, an SV650 at 6, a GSX-R600 at 8.5, a GSX-R750 at 9, the 1k at 9.5 and the Busa at 10.
While the difference between 600cc's and 1,000cc's may seem huge, after all we are talking about only 60% of the displacement the power difference isn't that great, you still have 75% of the dyno power of the 1K and probably about 90% of the real world power of the 1K because you really have to wind them up to notice the differences.
The step up from any non "R" motorcycle to any gixxer is a huge step up, unlike cars that marketing gurus put stripes and mags on basically a base car and call it sporty. R bikes are very very close to actual racing bikes, it's not so much the power either, it's the power delivery, it's hair trigger controls on the throttle and brakes that'll magnify the newbie mistakes you will make.
The first few months are the make or break ( in this case we're talking bones ) period a rider must go through just learning the basics and making mistakes, don't turn a learning experience into a life or death experience. The experienced riders here all know somebody who has been injured or died on a bike. Most experienced riders here have crashed their bikes, the most common thing we hear is that they were already down before they even realized they were going down.
Get a used, moderatly powered bike for your first season then you can think of trading up ( any money you lose on the bike will be made up by the money you saved on insurance ).
BTW have you even looked into insurance ? If we can't sway you away from a R bike maybe the humongous insurance premiums will.
I would put a 50cc scooter at 1, a GS500 at 5, an SV650 at 6, a GSX-R600 at 8.5, a GSX-R750 at 9, the 1k at 9.5 and the Busa at 10.
While the difference between 600cc's and 1,000cc's may seem huge, after all we are talking about only 60% of the displacement the power difference isn't that great, you still have 75% of the dyno power of the 1K and probably about 90% of the real world power of the 1K because you really have to wind them up to notice the differences.
The step up from any non "R" motorcycle to any gixxer is a huge step up, unlike cars that marketing gurus put stripes and mags on basically a base car and call it sporty. R bikes are very very close to actual racing bikes, it's not so much the power either, it's the power delivery, it's hair trigger controls on the throttle and brakes that'll magnify the newbie mistakes you will make.
The first few months are the make or break ( in this case we're talking bones ) period a rider must go through just learning the basics and making mistakes, don't turn a learning experience into a life or death experience. The experienced riders here all know somebody who has been injured or died on a bike. Most experienced riders here have crashed their bikes, the most common thing we hear is that they were already down before they even realized they were going down.
Get a used, moderatly powered bike for your first season then you can think of trading up ( any money you lose on the bike will be made up by the money you saved on insurance ).
BTW have you even looked into insurance ? If we can't sway you away from a R bike maybe the humongous insurance premiums will.
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:mrgreen:87gsxrnut said:
I'm not so sure you have figured it out just yet. Posted yesterday :
I had 2001 impala and i was going down a 4 lane road it was kinda raining outside. (not to bad) I was going probally 50-55 in a 45 and i looked away for a second and the lady in front of me slowed down and put on her turn signle when i realized this i looked in the other lane i couldnt get over and i slamed on my breaks and my brakes locked up and i slid into her back end probally going 20 or so.
Kinda raining requires you to go slower, not 5 to 10 over. If you have bad control over a car, you have no business on a 600 or any bike. We all make mistakes, but mistakes like that will kill you on a bike even at a 20 mph impact.
I had 2001 impala and i was going down a 4 lane road it was kinda raining outside. (not to bad) I was going probally 50-55 in a 45 and i looked away for a second and the lady in front of me slowed down and put on her turn signle when i realized this i looked in the other lane i couldnt get over and i slamed on my breaks and my brakes locked up and i slid into her back end probally going 20 or so.
Kinda raining requires you to go slower, not 5 to 10 over. If you have bad control over a car, you have no business on a 600 or any bike. We all make mistakes, but mistakes like that will kill you on a bike even at a 20 mph impact.
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